The deployment of advanced S-300 missiles to Syria has set off alarm bells in the US and Israel

The Pentagon’s decision to conduct addition tests for its F-35 stealth fighter means that it is not so sure about the plane’s invisibility to Russia’s S-300 missiles, the Indian newspaper EurAsian Times wrote.

“The fact that the Americans tried to make the plane invisible does not mean that it really is. And it’s not for nothing that the Pentagon suddenly announced the need for additional F-35 tests, recently. This is clear evidence that the US themselves do not believe in the competence of F-35 against the S-300 air defense systems,” the news site added.

According to EurAsian Times, the F-35 Lightning II was developed with an eye to defeating the S-300 system the US already had access to. As soon as Iran began to negotiate with Russia about buying the S-300, Israel reportedly paid Greece a lot of money to get access to these systems to study them. Besides, the Americans bought parts of the complex through Belarus.

However, the S-300 system the Americans obtained “was put into service back in 1978 and the difference between modern technology and the one in 1978 is enormous,” the website noted.

Commenting on the S-300 deliveries to Syria, EurAsian Times concluded that they will “seriously increase the Syrian air defense, but only in one region, since it was announced that only four SAM systems were being delivered.

The Israeli air force is large enough and well equipped to withstand such protection. But the risk of losses, in this case, will be much higher.”

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Israel’s Regional Cooperation Minister Tzachi Hanegbi said earlier this month that the S-300’s capabilities have long been factored in Israel’s strategic planning.

The former general director of the main design bureau of the Almaz-Antei concern, Igor Ashurbeili, said that part of the S-300 technology had been stolen by the United States.

At the same time, the Pentagon announced that full-scale combat tests of fifth-generation F-35 Lightning II fighters would begin in November, and not in September, as earlier planned due to Lockheed Martin’s failure to upgrade the plane’s computer software on time.

In all, Israel is to receive 50 F-35A Lightning II fighter jets from the United States, which, after an upgrade, will be renamed F-35I Adir. Currently, Israel has eight such aircraft.

The S-300PM system, supplied to Syria, is based on the S-300PS complex, which entered service in Russia in 1993.

The upgraded system is capable of destroying aircraft and hypersonic cruise missiles at a distance of up to 200 kilometers (124 miles).

Moscow has supplied batteries of advanced S-300 air defense missiles to Syria to protect Russian troops deployed in the war-torn Arab country in the wake of the recent downing of a Russian reconnaissance plane during an Israeli airstrike in Latakia.

 

Source: Sputnik

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Daeshbags-Sux
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What a bunch of BS! F-35 will start IOT&E (Initial Operational Test and Evaluation) in November. This is the normal development of the aircraft since it’s NOT finished. Technically it’s the same status as pre-series where Su-57 is too…

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The S-400 stems from the S-300P tree…and therefor the S-300PM is much better integrated in the Russian S-400 in Syria. Russia supplied Syria with 3 divisions of S-300PM, more than enough to cover all Syria.

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Gotta love the troll brigade. They enter every time there is some sort of supposed controversy, to render their ‘expert’ opinion. In reality, it is only propaganda born of fear. That’s why the US is ‘updating’ their F-35CF and Israel has not attacked Syria since their ambush blew up in their faces.

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Gustavo Lopez Velazquez

USA can make whatever and as many upgrading as it wnats on F-35. Any way, they will be destroyed by S-300 system.

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And with those Greek S-300 systems, the Israelis managed to hack the command and control software systems which shocked the Russians. Presumably the Russians sorted that out for upgraded S-300s and later missile models.
Also with modern electronic communications and optics, missiles can also be provided with visuals which operators can use to cut a path through any chaff/flares

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Except that Israelis also have access to S-300V4, the latest version that was issued in 2010, through at least one, maybe two countries. There’s not only Greece (in fact Cyprus is the owner) having S-300 in Europe. Slovakia too and I think Bulgaria has some. Chaffs don’t act on visuals but on radar-guided instead. Flares are against IR guidance. If you think the westerners don’t know about all this, you’re deluded : they invented such systems and just think about it : in 40 years, S-300 wasn’t used in combat even once, so is it for S-400 in 20+ years.… Read more »

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So you as a Mr. Smarty Pants have knowledge of what the Americans or Israelis know about the missile systems being delivered to the Syrians and yet both those former countries are having hissy fits about what you regard as ineffective missiles being delivered by the Russians to the Syrians??? And that this article is about the USA having to update their already expensive F-35 jet fighters against older Russian S-300 missiles, the former which are supposedly more modern that includes stealthiness?

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An Indian article relayed by Sputnik… For sure, Indian press, which is usually as pitiful if not even worst than the Brit one, knows better what is happening in this very specialised domain than e.g. Aviationweek which is around for 102 years or Air & Cosmos which is here for 55 years… Actually, the news about F-35 is it will start IOT&E (Initial Operational Test and Evaluation) in November, thus finally leaving the OTTR (Operational Test Readiness Review=prototype) status. IOT&E means that F-35 now gets a pre-series status… Yup, I know, production already started! Lockheed started to sell prototypes. The… Read more »

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Mr.Smarty Pants FairsFair surely doesn’t knows that Egypt has S-300V4 and guess whose drones help Egypt at busting ISIS/Sinai? Guess which intelligence service helped al-Sisi’s coup against the Muslim-Brotherhood?
And guess with who Egypt is associated for the exploitation of the Levantine undersea gas basin? And who will be in the upcoming Mid-East “NATO”?
And now look at the gear Egypt uses… Shïtloads of western weapons, isn’t it? Some were even given… D’you really think that Yanks give F-16 without any counterpart? C’mon!
S-300V4 is the latest version (2010)…

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Who the h**l said anything about Egypt and what does that have to do at all with what we’re talking about? YES the American-Israeli alliance makes great weapons. You happy now? You make good weapons. But your people suck at being humble. Look at the Yemenis. Those guys can win against your very well-armed ally Saudi Arabia. Whose weapons do the Saudi’s have? YOURS. And they can’t even win against guys in FLIP FLOPS. The houthis have nothing but ATGM and AK-47 and a few ballistic missiles. Weapons don’t mean anything when the people using them don’t have the heart… Read more »

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– Egypt provides access to S-300V4, India to S-300VM and it’s not a secret how Indians love Israelis… – Humility is the worst form of vanity. To hëll wth the humble ones! – Houthis lost half the territory they initially took and things are FAR from going as well as the Hezbollocks crapaganda you read on AMN says. And they ended with all the National Guard’s stockpile. You don’t seem to have any knowledge about the number of ballistic missiles and SAMs the Soviet left to Yemen, t was tremendous. SAMs were converted into ballistic missiles thanks to Iran, same… Read more »

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You’re a retard. Why would the Americans and Israelis get so worked up over a missile system that they themselves believe to be ineffective? The S-300 and S-400 never being used in combat is a scary thing, mainly because the purpose of those systems is to DEFEND airspace. So the fact it’s never been used, although it was deployed, could mean enemies were deterred by it out of fear of being shot down. By the way, the S-125M (1950s technology) shot down a F-117 Nighthawk (1970s – 1980s technology) in Yugoslavia. All it requires is tinkering with the bandwidth of… Read more »

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Thanks, bien dit ! Couldn’t have put it in a better nutshell myself. Making a speech short isn’t my most obvious quality, no doubt 😀 DoucheBag sees victory where there is failure, and glory when there is fear. I find him quite amazing in his take on reality. He’ll look at you straight while using Saddam’s Iraq of ’90 as a valid example to gauge Western superiority over Russian gear as an absolute and undeniable proof, and carefully forget the 50+ IDF fighter planes that got shot out of the sky by Egyptian air-defense crews alone in their very first… Read more »

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Except it shot a single F-117 from only 6km and with the bomb doors opened… Operation Allied Force implied 1031 NATO aircraft, wow, 3 were shot down by SAMs! Very impressive! Ooops, maybe do you forget FR Yugoslavia 121 aircraft destroyed too? Didn’t Mig-29 have been eaten alive despite SAM batteries helping ’em? Patriots have greatly evolved, you have Patriot PAC4 nowadays. Can you remind us how long Syrian Su-22 which recently entered Israeli airspace lasted? It flew for about 1600m… Let’s say about 10 seconds? We don’t use F-16, we have Rafale and Mirage-2000. Rafale already flew just over… Read more »

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BdS = Befehlshaber der Sicherheitspolizei…
LOL, the Nazi “special police” created to track Jewish financial assets…
I bet you didn’t knew what your nickname means…
It’s not an innocent acronym from the Muslim-Brotherhood roaches behind the “Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions”. Remember how far Muslim-Brotherhood was an ally to the Nazi regime…

Daeshbags-Sux
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Guess what? I’m shareholder in Elbit, Rafael and IAI. They’re really doing great.
I also consider investing in Israeli bio-technology companies and in medical marijuana.
🖕🏾

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That’s the type of jackass response I’d expect from a low life Zionist. So you’re not a scientist or an engineer or a doctor just some useless idiot who places bets on other people’s businesses, according to your other comment. Just like the Saudis. You’re not a threat, just loud-mouthed Zio trash. Here’s what I have to say to that: I don’t invest in other people’s businesses – I make my own. I don’t do investment banking – I give the investment banks something to invest in. What business idea could you come up with? Selling donkey c**p on the… Read more »

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Frankly, by only being able to rely on personal attacks and insults instead of counter-argumenting or better, you’ve just proven yourself totally irrelevant and totally useless. Well, if you’re into Hezbollocks, you’re surely implied in cocaine trade or money laundering. When it comes to threat, well, it all depends… Would any of our ‘serious’ Western nations or Indians or Israelis follow my advising by vaporising the Black-Stone, you know, the one in Mecca’s Ka’aba, this would seal the doom of your despicable worst-than-Nazism ideology once and for all. This would only be Darwinism and your visceral hatred and dragging down… Read more »

Daeshbags-Sux
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“So you’re not a scientist or an engineer or a doctor”‘
=> Wrong, as you are used to be…
You should really consider resigning yourself to failure : you’re obviously not fit for anything else…

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I come here at the end of the day and see 4 or 5 comments from you scattered across the website DAILY and it’s been going on for months at least. Mostly just trash talking people and mocking the dead. An educated, busy individual, especially one in the sciences, has no time for that.

You’re none of the above. Sorry.

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BDS= Bull***t daeshbag sux 🙂